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MSandt · Joined: 23 Sep 2002 Posts: 221 Location: Finland

Okay - finally I managed to upload 'Oblivion' mission pack for Quake 2.
It's in parts because I wasn't able to upload 40meg file at once. I
didn't splitted it with any splitter program cuz I don't have any. So
I just uploaded a folder at a time.

So download these:
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/maps1.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/maps2.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/models.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/textures.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/pics.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/video.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/demos.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/sound.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/Oblivion.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/env.zip
http://www.planetduke.com/msdn/sprites.zip

Now do the following but remember that I don't know much about Quake 2 mods because I uninstalled my Quake 2 two years ago: After you have downloaded all of them unzip Oblivion.zip to your Quake2 folder so it creates a folder called Oblivion to your Q2 directory. Files in this
'oblivion.zip' should be in quake2/oblivion directory. Then unzip models.zip to quake2/oblivion/models, textures.zip to quake2/oblivion/textures,
pics.zip to quake2/oblivion/pics, video.zip to quake2/oblivion/video, sound.zip to quake2/oblivion/sound, env.zip to quake2/oblivion/env, sprites.zip to quake2/oblivion/sprites, maps1.zip to quake2/oblivion/maps,
maps2.zip to quake2/oblivion/maps.

I'm not going to keep these files up forever so please download them now and let me know when I can remove them. If Tenfourmaps wants to review Oblivion they also should upload the whole pack to some other location because they can't link to my locations.
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nitin · Joined: 24 Sep 2000 Posts: 249

msandt, just a question. Shambler has a brief rundown of the pack at http://teamshambler.telefragged.com/oblivion1.shtml

He mentions a few serious game crashing bugs there. Did you expereince those too? If so, how detrimental are they to the maps?

[Kona] · Joined: 04 Apr 2000 Posts: 45

wicked man!!!
i'll get it tomorrow, so i hope it's still up then.
hope it works, thanks mate.

Pokec · Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 159 Location: Slovenia

TERM1nu$ · Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:20 am Post subject:

I got it. Thanks for going through all the trouble of putting it up for us.

aguirRe · Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 119

I've got the files too, although I'll have to wait until tomorrow night before I can check if they work in Q2.

Thanks for sharing this pack with us.

aldiboronti · Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:16 pm Post subject:

Wow! Christmas came early. Many thanks for the upload.

Got 'em! This is a brilliant idea, any more mission packs lurking out there which can be uploaded without treading on any toes?

aldiboronti · Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 1:28 am Post subject:

Damn! It fell over with a clunk on initialisation with the message 'Server was killed'. Anybody else getting this?

Wait a minute, I can get it up and running if I don't use the batch file to start it, and go straight into a map. But what is the first map, I'm guessing huba, is that rigfht?

aldiboronti · Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2002 6:23 am Post subject:

Hey, this one rocks! After many moons playing crappy or mediocre Q2 levels, it's nice to see again what a well put together one looks like. Not that it doesn't have drawbacks (only got to the Comm Center so far), the first being your dumb fellow marines, who get in your way, block your passage (I could swear they were actually shooting at me sometimes!), and force you to use noclips to get past them sometimes - it was a relief when they were killed, in fact I actually fragged the last two myself.
More comments as I get further.

Pokec · Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 159 Location: Slovenia

noclip is your best friend in Oblivion. Because it has such an important role, I even added bind F6 "noclip" to my config.cfg:).

Jed · Joined: 04 Apr 2000 Posts: 95 Location: United States

This is indeed a good level set. I'll mirror the download tomorrow.

Dethroner · Joined: 13 Nov 2000 Posts: 350

Pokec · Joined: 25 Jul 2001 Posts: 159 Location: Slovenia

I think you're in the right map. Some comrades should be around you, I think there're also couple of planes near you. As you proceed forward, you should step into lil' cave with some watter inside.

Jed · Joined: 04 Apr 2000 Posts: 95 Location: United States

Mirror:
http://old.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?jed/oblivion.zip

aguirRe · Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 119

I've now reached the Water Facility and so far it's been great. A few bugs, but nothing detrimental since they're mostly known beforehand. A rather tough beginning and only one unfair fight later on (I think you'll notice when).

The new "buddies" are as usual both funny and annoying at the same time but I think they add some nice variety.

I also noticed this in the readme :

MSandt · Joined: 23 Sep 2002 Posts: 221 Location: Finland

So I can remove the files now when that Jed uploaded the whole pack to Fileplanet. (?)

Does Tenfourmaps staff know about this? Just in case if they're interested in reviewing it.
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TERM1nu$ · Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 6:40 am Post subject:

Now that Jed has put up a permanent link you can probably take yours down now. Thanks again for uploading it. I'm sure the Fiend is already thrashing about the new levels in preparation of a review.

Dethroner · Joined: 13 Nov 2000 Posts: 350

I have created modified config files for Oblivion.
These allow to:

g

m

d

7

8

There are a couple of problems with these files, though.
1. If you start a new game without waiting for demos to play, everything works fine, but if you watch demos and then start a new game, the original Quake 2 missions load instead, and you have to restart Quake 2 to start playing Oblivion. But i think, this is better than getting an error

. I have tested different combinations, but the result is always the same. I have checked the Reckoning config files, and it looks like I've done everything right, so it might be Oblivion problem.
2. It looks like weapons toggle is built into th game .dll. For example, the config sets 8 key to toggle Hyperblaster, Deatomizer and Plasma Rifle, nevertheless, Plasma Rifle shares the 4 key with Machine Gun.

I don't want to upload these small files, so they are included in this message. All you need to do is to edit existing autoexec.cfg and oblivion.cfg in your Oblivion folder. Here is the new contents for these files.

autoexec.cfg:
// Begin OBLIVION mod AUTOEXEC.CFG file
exec oblivion.cfg
d1
// End of file

oblivion.cfg:
// Begin OBLIVION mod OBLIVION.CFG file
//----------------------------------------------

//
// DEMO STUFF
//
alias d1 "demomap idlog.cin ; set nextserver d2"
alias d2 "demomap demo1.dm2 ; set nextserver d3"
alias d3 "demomap ntro.cin ; set nextserver d4"
alias d4 "demomap demo2.dm2 ; set nextserver d1"

//
// newgame command
//
alias newgame " killserver ; maxclients 1 ; deathmatch 0 ; map *idlog.cin+ntro.cin+base1"

//
// weapon cycling
//
// g key - grenades, mines, detpack and DOD
alias wg1 "use grenades; bind g wg2"
alias wg2 "use mines; bind g wg3"
alias wg3 "use Detonation Pack; bind g wg4"
alias wg4 "use DOD; bind g wg1"

// 7 key - Rocket Launcher and HellFury
alias w71 "use Rocket Launcher; bind 7 w72"
alias w72 "use HellFury; bind 7 w71"

// 8 key - Hyperblaster, Deatomizer and Plasma Rifle
alias w81 "use Hyperblaster; bind 8 w82"
alias w82 "use Deatomizer; bind 8 w83"
alias w83 "use Plasma Rifle; bind 8 w81"

//
// Key bindings
//
bind 1 "use Plasma Pistol"
bind 2 "use Shotgun"
bind 3 "use Super Shotgun"
bind 4 "use Machinegun"
bind 5 "use Chaingun"
bind 6 "use Grenade Launcher"
bind 7 w71
bind 8 w81
bind 9 "use Railgun"
bind 0 "use BFG10K"
bind g wg1
bind d "use Detonation Pack"
bind r "use RTDU"
bind m "use Mines"
// End of file

aguirRe · Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 119

Does anyone know the cause of the dreaded "index overflow" error in the Harvester map and if there is any way to work around it ?

I've tried various things like gibbing the monsters one by one (to reduce visible objects), changed the killing order and even tried to make the monsters kill themselves. Nothing works; the only way seems to be entering god/notarget mode, avoiding the monsters and perform the necessary tasks to proceed to the next map.

Also, in the last map there seems to be some confusion regarding the red key; it's obtainable in two places and one of them leads to skipping a large part of the map. Anyone else experiencing this ?

Jed · Joined: 04 Apr 2000 Posts: 95 Location: United States

This modified q2 executable is supposed to to be immune to index overflows. It crashes on my computer for some reason, though.

[Kona] · Joined: 04 Apr 2000 Posts: 45

Error: Game error: Read level: Function pointers have moved.

This is the console error I get when trying to load a level after quitting and restarting. So I have to play the entire game in one sitting without closing q2? pretty lame

in the 4-5 levels i did play there were quite a few bugs - a door wouldn't open, a redkey door wouldn't work, an explosion that was supposed to blow a whole in the wall didn't work. all requiring noclip.

the design was pretty average but i did just get up to the water unit and that looked good.

aguirRe · Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 119

Jed : Thanks for the tip, I'll try KnightMares engine (I've heard about it before) and see what happens.

[Kona] : Yes there are known bugs. However, those you mention are documented in Shamblers review and on the Lethargy site. Check those out first.

The real problems start in the Harvester map though. I've searched the Net for the "index overflow" error and found an explanation here.

Following the information there, I tried to get rid of some of the "expensive" entities in the BSP and that seems to help but it still crashes later on when killing the Sentinel. That map needs a serious fix.

I still think it's a great mission pack, though.

nitin · Joined: 24 Sep 2000 Posts: 249

so how much effort would it take for some of the gifted mappers to debug the buggy stuff <hoping bigtime>? And how feasible would it be (ie legally etc)? and would anyone do it?

aguirRe · Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 119

Well I've now tried the KnightMare, Quake2Max and BeefQuake engines and none of them help. I couldn't even get KnightMares to run at all.

In my limited Q2 mapping experience, most of these problems seem entity related (red key door, wall/crate balance and "index overflow"). It appears to me that they could be fixed just by loading the BSPs into e.g. QuArK, edit the corresponding entities and then save.

BTW, does anyone know how to get the brightness right in Quake2 using a Geforce3 card ? When comparing the brightness in my old VooDoo2 and the Geforce, the VooDoo wins big time. Even the colours are oversaturated or just plain too dark with the Geforce. In other games the Geforce is a lot better.

I've tried every thing that works in other games including adjusting H/W gamma, ingame controls (intensity/gl_modulate etc) and finally monitor brightness. It's playable, but it's still way too dark in my opinion. What settings do you use to get the brightness right ?

Argh! · Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 37